A chat with Laura who has taken upon herself to create a Bitcoin Beach equivalent in Milan

# Laura 1

**Tali:** [: 00:00:00

Thank you so much for joining us. Would you tell us a little bit about yourself and when you first heard about Bitcoin?

own is in the north of Italy [: 00:01:00

I, I find out, uh, a lot of new friends because I, I had to stay to, to home, anything to do, and I tried to, uh, escape from that crazy period. So I had to find out something else, something different, something easy, easy, not so easy to understand or, or to learn, but something easy and completely different from that.

Uh, from that, uh, from that environment, uh, news and also everything. Sorry for my English, so in, in, in Italian, maybe it's better, but, uh, I, I do my best.

g Covid, I, you were sort of [: 00:02:00

**Laura:** Yes.

**Tali:** So that's why you came across Bitcoin and decided to study it.

**Laura:** Yes, I, I came across a lot of webinars.

**Tali:** Mm-hmm.

**Laura:** And a lot of, uh, news, uh, well structured, uh, from Italian Bitcoin, uh, uh, until that time, my, my opinion about Bitcoin was that Bitcoin is trading. And I'm a normal person. I have, uh, a normal job, so I have no money to, to invest and Bitcoin was not one of my target.

**Tali:** Mm-hmm.

**Laura:** But I understand that Bitcoin is a freedom tool.

**Tali:** Mm-hmm. How did you come across that understanding that, that Bitcoin is not an investment tool, but a, a freedom tool?

ame across some, uh, bad bad [: 00:03:00

They have, uh, uh, a nice horizon in mind. And their goal is to, uh, let more people understand what Bitcoin is. So, uh, I spent maybe 10 hours, uh, in, in, uh, three days webinar. And nobody talk about Bitcoin. No. Nobody talk about the protocol. Everybody start from the, the, the history of the money.

**Tali:** Right.

entire humans, not only for [: 00:04:00

**Tali:** Right. So when you, if you recall that first three day webinar that you, you attended, what were the major points that really jumped out at you, that made you believe that this is a freedom tool?

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**Tali:** So being in lockdown helped you see the power of freedom? Is that what you're...

**Laura:** Yes.

**Tali:** Okay. Got it.

**Laura:** Yes.

al agencies? Do you have any [: 00:06:00

**Laura:** Not exactly because, uh, I was so, so ignorant about, uh, this topic, but I really understand why I am so poor in my 50.

Uh, 54 years. I work from 30 years and I don't have money, uh, as a store of value, and now I understand why, why I don't have.

**Tali:** Can you tell me a little bit more about that?

a lot for, uh, energy bills. [: 00:07:00

**Tali:** That's you're spending money.

**Laura:** Yes. And I never understand that 100 euros in the pocket could be a store of value for the future.

This is, this is one another argument that triggered me a lot in that three hours, in that three days webinar. Because I understand I don't have to own an, uh, an entire Bitcoin. I can grow up, uh, uh, in, in a small, uh, with small, uh, segment.

**Tali:** Right. So how do you think it will be different now that you are aware of the existence of Bitcoin?

es that change your everyday [: 00:08:00

**Laura:** Yes. Everything has changed because first off I saw, uh, a light, uh, we used to say in Italy. I dunno if, if it is the same in the States. I saw a light at the end of the tunnel.

**Tali:** Yeah.

**Laura:** Okay. I saw, I saw light and a smile, uh, arise on my face.

Okay. I'm really happy for this. Uh, uh, so, uh, I, and, and I have decided to, to, to applicate myself to study maybe five or six, uh, hours a day.

**Tali:** That's a long time.

y were for maybe four months.[: 00:09:00

So the only thing you have to, to do is to, uh, turn on television and hear news. Mono automat news, only one news for four for four months. Or maybe read or maybe do something else. And Bitcoin was my, that, uh, that's something else for me.

**Tali:** Wow. So the lockdown was actually a real blessing for you then.

**Laura:** I have to, I have to thank covid and lockdown for a lot of reasons. And one of the, one of them is, uh, Bitcoin.

**Tali:** Wow.

Wonderful. Okay, so after the three days, uh, webinar, which spanned 10 hours, you went from a skeptic to a believer?

om a, um, a no-coiner at all [: 00:10:00

**Tali:** Enthusiast. Okay.

**Laura:** Yes. Yeah, enthusiast. Sorry.

**Tali:** Yeah.

**Laura:** My pronounce is nice.

**Tali:** No, you're doing wonderful. So, in the, okay, so after that, after that initial three days' webinar, you said that you studied five to six hours a day. Can you tell our audience what you study specifically? Maybe they, that will guide them toward, um, different resources.

**Laura:** Yes. I, I joined to, uh, an online course. One day a week on Monday. And I, I, I do that course already. Now it's three years that I study.

**Tali:** What course was that?

**Laura:** Uh, from a teacher from, uh, one of the Italian, uh, maximalist, uh, here in Italy.

**Tali:** Got it. [: 00:11:00

**Laura:** Another one that has to reinvent his job because he, he was not able to, to go out.

For his job. And he decided to, to start some, uh, some courses about this.

**Tali:** Okay. So, so basically online courses you were interacting with live people, so it wasn't necessarily that you were listening to record a podcasts or, uh, reading a bunch of articles or books.

**Laura:** Yes. And, and I, I saw a, a, a lot of, uh, uh, in Italy, there is a, a very nice and huge movement about Bitcoin.

to understand. The protocol. [: 00:12:00

You have some goal in mind. Maybe you don't know your goal, but when you meet Bitcoin, your goals are, uh, behind you. It's total clear, okay? And you decide, uh, how many hours you, you, you can, uh, study. During the, the day. It's only, it's only a mindset. Uh, and you, you only have to decide to take that moment for, for, for you.

For yourself. This is enough. I had a lot of hours, but I preferred to, to go. To, to job, maybe not to meet Bitcoin. I don't know.

**Tali:** Yeah.

**Laura:** I think I, I prefer this.

**Tali:** [: 00:13:00

**Laura:** Uh, uh, during the, the, the course, uh, after three years, I became, uh, one of the two senior assistant of the teacher.

and understand how to manage [: 00:14:00

I never met except maybe, but I don't know, except music maybe. But music, uh, in a, as a, a big, um, um, a big world only, only music maybe is, uh, so universal for, for individual people, for individual needs, like Bitcoin. But music is, uh, you, you can like, uh, rock, you can like classical music, so the entire music. And Bitcoin is, uh, maybe, uh, uh, a sort of, uh, you, you, you, you, you can find sort of genres that you like inside the, the protocol.

today. We will continue this [: 00:15:00