Bitcoin, Prayers, and Miracles: A Tale of Unexpected Connections with Manvir - Part 2

Tali: 00:00:00

Hey, everybody.

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Today you're listening to part two of my conversation with Manvir...

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Can you talk a little bit about your experience in Miami since you

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were, you felt guided to go there?

Manvir: 00:00:11

Yeah.

Manvir: 00:00:12

Yeah.

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It's so funny.

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I was like, okay, God, I need a hotel room.

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I'm on a budget.

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The tickets are really expensive.

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I think, you know, the person like, I'm like, okay, I think like,

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so you know how there's like the tickets, it's like general admission.

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And then there's what is that called?

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Then there was like, there's an like...

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There's an industry pass.

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And then there's a whale pass.

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And then there's the whale pass, right?

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I was like, well, God, you know, I'm like, I'm feeling the whale pass.

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But it's 11,000 dollars.

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And I'm like, you know, I trust You.

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And, I think You need to make this happen really easily.

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Right.

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And so I'm sitting there and I've never gone to the Bitcoin, Miami conference.

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I don't know anybody who's attending.

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Right.

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And, uh, so I got online one day, and I was like, okay, God, if You're guiding

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me, like, you know, what should I do?

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And I got on Craigslist from Miami.

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I'm like, maybe somebody is selling their passes really cheap.

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And there was somebody who was selling a whale ticket, for such

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a low, low, low amount that I was like, this has to be a scam.

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There's no way, but I was, but I'm like, okay, but I will reach out.

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I got connected to this guy and I don't, for whatever, like he left

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me, like, he was like, okay, I can transfer the ticket to this thing.

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And then you just put the money in there.

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Right.

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And I was like, okay, I don't even know how this, technology works

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of where you transfer a ticket.

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And is this ticket thing a scam and like, right?

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And so I was like, here's my number.

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Just call me.

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Can we talk for a second?

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And the guy left, you know, he left me a message and he was like, listen,

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I've got so many offers who have people who want to, you know, buy my ticket

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for way more than I had listed it for.

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And I'm, and he said that, you know, he's in a wheelchair.

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So like, you know, he's not looking to get scammed.

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And I was like, okay, let me call him.

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Right.

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I was like, the dude is saying he's in a wheelchair.

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He wants to sell this ticket.

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It's like way below any price you could ever imagine.

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And so I call him up and I was on the phone for like an hour.

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I'm like, hey, listen, I got this vision.

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I think I'm supposed to go to Miami.

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I think I need a whale pass and all the things.

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He was like, okay, I will sell it to you.

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And I was like, yeah...

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And he had been to Miami several times and to the Bitcoin conference,

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and I was like, I don't even know about getting a hotel room.

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And he was like, you know, basically had, like, he had, like, millions of, like,

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you know, mileage points or whatever.

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He's like, okay, I'll get you the hotel room.

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You know, you can just pay me cash.

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And the hotel room was like a fraction of the price and, like, really close.

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And but like, he was like, just pay me everything when you see me.

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And so I'm like, okay, God, I'm just flying blindly to Miami.

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To meet somebody I don't know, who might be, who's in a

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wheelchair, who's, who's like...

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okay, hopefully I have a hotel room when I get there and a ticket,

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but like, I'm just going to follow and, um, yeah, and it worked out.

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So I got to, uh, Miami, to the conference, and so blessed to be able to go to the

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Thank God for Bitcoin conference because.

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You know, Bitcoin really is a technology that is revolutionizing...

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well, it is changing everything that we thought about money and what's possible.

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And it's bringing integrity to the financial system and transparency.

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It was such a blessing to go to the Thank God for Bitcoin conference.

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Uh, people that have faith, and who, who really want to see, want to see a

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financial system that has transparency, that has trust, that is just good

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for humanity and for our planet.

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You know, obviously I had an opportunity to meet you there, Tali.

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And I got to, got to meet some other extraordinary people there.

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And so while I was there, you know, there was this gentleman who was

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like this big VC and so forth.

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Right.

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And he also happened to be in a wheelchair.

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Right.

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And okay, what are the chances of meeting, like, another person in a wheelchair?

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I was like, you know, and so I was like, maybe he's the

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person I'm supposed to talk to.

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So I had a meeting set up with him, like, basically the last day

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of the actual Bitcoin conference.

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And I was like, this is in the bag.

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Like, you know, of course, like, boom, boom, this person, that person.

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Yeah.

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Okay, God.

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Like, doing the thing.

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Going to talk to this guy, meet with him, and it'll like, all just like come

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together in a pretty bow and I'm good.

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So I sit down on that Saturday.

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It's the last day of the event.

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And I, and I meet with him, and I'd, like, kind of try and put my idea together.

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And he's just like, he looks at me and he's like, yeah, that's really beautiful.

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And like, yeah, I don't know how to help you.

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I'm not, I'm not your person.

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I was just like devastated.

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I'm like, what, how can this be?

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Right?

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I'm like, okay, I'm not going to go into a bathroom and cry at

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this moment, but I'm just gonna...

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but I might go into a bathroom and cry at the Bitcoin conference, like...

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Okay, I came all the way out here, you know, I'm trusting, like, okay, fine.

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Pulled myself together, walked over to another table, and there was this

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guy, there was these two guys that I'd met before, but one in particular

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that I'd met a couple days prior.

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And I walked up to him and I was just like, dude, I had a, I had

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a meeting, it totally sucked.

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And he was like, oh, what was it about?

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And meanwhile, he's like this American guy, but from El Salvador, originally,

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I think his family was from El Salvador.

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And so I was like, okay, you won't believe this.

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I had this vision.

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I think I'm supposed to go to Bitcoin conference.

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Like, all these things came together.

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I go, I'm having these visions about these prisoners and I go, basically nobody...

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I go, from what I've discovered so far, also, is that nobody's

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even allowed in the prisons.

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Right.

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And I thought I could even connect to Max and Stacy.

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Like, there'd be like, you know, of course, we'll, like, hook

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you up with everybody you'd need to, like, talk to, right?

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And, you know, I go, that didn't happen.

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And so here's this random guy that I'm just, like, talking to

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and basically complaining to.

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And he's like, here's my contact number.

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He's like, you know, I'm from El Salvador.

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And he's like, he goes, my dad was telling me that, you know, "your

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uncle is the head of the Ministry of Defense for the country."

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And he's like, he's like, okay, so I think we could probably get a meeting with

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all the right people, if you wanted to.

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And he was like, and him personally, he was like, and you

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know, I'm into prison reform.

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And so yeah, so that's my, like, God and Bitcoin adventure.

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What an incredible story.

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Oh my goodness.

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The dots that were connected and...

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to make the path lit, but not exactly every step that you expect.

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So you kind of experienced a little bit of, wait a second...

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you know, sometimes you question in order to get a stronger

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conviction down the road, I think.

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So I'm glad you didn't go into the bathroom and cry, but I totally

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understand moments like that.

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So what's happened since then?

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I mean, that was a couple months ago.

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So, any developments?

Manvir: 00:08:03

So okay, so that was, yeah, like a month and a half ago.

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So I contacted the guy that actually introduced the two of us together.

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Right, Mark, and he...

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yeah, so I spoke to Mark, and he was like, okay, well, figure out what you need.

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And let's talk.

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And I mean, come on, like, I'm like, okay, I don't even know

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what I need at this moment.

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Like, do I put together a business plan, a pitch deck, right?

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Right?

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I've never done any ministry work.

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How does, you know, where do we go from here?

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And that's when you said, okay, well, let's, let's just have a conversation.

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And so I thought, okay, well, we'll, we'll go from there.

Tali: 00:08:43

Yeah, you never know who's listening, and what kind of connections

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they have, just like your conversation...

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last day with the last person.

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I think the path will be lit for you as you continue to put

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one foot in front of the other.

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That's the way it usually works, anyway.

Manvir: 00:08:59

Yeah.

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And, but, but actually, so like, let me get back to also the Bitcoin story, right?

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And so Bitcoin is...

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for whoever's listening, do research, learn about this.

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It's important and, you know, you wanna, you wanna have

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freedom and self sovereignty.

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And, you know, as you work, you want to be able to save your money.

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And I think that this is a tool that can be used.

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Thank you for joining us today.

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We will continue this conversation tomorrow.

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Be sure to come back and hear the rest.