From Jazz Grooves to Digital Gold: A Music Family's Bitcoin Journey - part 1

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Hi everyone.

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Welcome to Orange Hatter.

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Today you're listening to a conversation I had with Sarah.

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Good morning, Sarah.

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Thank you so much for joining us today on Orange Hatter.

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I'm so excited to jump right in and find out more about you.

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And I wanna thank you again for your willingness to share your

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Bitcoin story with our audience.

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So can you tell us, uh, a little bit about yourself?

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Sure.

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Well, my name's Sarah and I am, I have a wonderful husband and three

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adorable children, and they're all under seven, so seven, five, and one.

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So we're just starting the elementary school craziness and

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afterschool activities and meal planning, house management, all

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sorts of fun stuff like that.

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So I feel very busy, but very lucky and excited to do a lot

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of fun stuff with my days.

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We.

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My husband works as a musician, so we have kind of an interesting family

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schedule, and I have a small part-time job running a Bible study program

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for elementary school kids, but kind of a side passion project of mine.

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So yeah, we live in a suburb of a fun town.

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Fun city.

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I live in Cincinnati, Ohio.

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Which is a lots of fun stuff to do.

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Lots of fun things for families and we stay very busy and have a lot of fun

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friends that we go and hang out with and chat with and play dates, and that's kind

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of what my life looks like week by week.

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I don't know, we're in a busy but but exciting season of

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life right now with our kids.

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Yeah, that's a, that's a big transition to go from

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preschool into elementary school.

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And then you have a, a toddler really, I mean, that keeps you very busy.

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Yes.

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And now he's mobile.

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He's mobile and gets into everything.

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We have designated cabinets for him that he is allowed to rip everything

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out of, and then we put them back because he is very active now.

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But yeah, we just got our soccer schedule for my girls, and I did

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not realize that I'm committing five nights a week, five days a week,

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to soccer for the next two months.

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So, Yeah, it's very fun and that's why I keep telling myself is that it's just

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a season and it's very fun and I should enjoy it because some days it does feel

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a little overwhelming, but, but I'm only gonna do it for a couple years.

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I feel, you know, it's gonna pass and I wanna look back and

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enjoy it and not have missed it.

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So that's the mindset I'm trying to cult cultivate.

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So some days it's easier than others.

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I'm sure you went through a similar season.

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Oh yeah.

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I had, I have four kids under the age of five.

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They were like less than five years together, and I remember running from

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gymnastics to swimming to karate.

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To soccer, and my kids were so active that, you know, I, they

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would do one karate class and then the, the teachers would say, oh,

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they can go home and sleep now.

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I said, no, you don't have, you have no idea.

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We're going from here to swimming.

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And then after that, they're still going to run circles around the kitchen.

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Oh yeah, I have, I...

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I'm glad that you can understand.

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I mean, I have friends who are like, oh, they'll nap well, or, well,

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they'll fall asleep in the car.

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I'm like, my children don't sleep unless like natural sedation of like literally

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they have to run themselves ragged.

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Like they have to be active all day and that's, That's exciting.

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That's great.

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They get it from their, their father.

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I am, I love a good nap, but my girls, my kids haven't napped since

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they were two, so it's definitely, they get it naturally from Jason.

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So...

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None of my kids wanted to nap.

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And I used to have to sit on them, literally put my legs over them, to keep

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them still for two minutes, they'll be like, I don't want a nap, I don't want...

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and then they would be out 10 minutes later.

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They were 10 minutes.

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The nap was over.

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They were up and running circles around.

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The kitchen again.

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You understand.

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I understand.

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Yeah.

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I have hope.

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I have hope.

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My toddler will be a napper, he'll be more of like in line with me,

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but now that he's moving, I'm seeing evidence to the contrary.

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But yeah, we'll see.

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But like you said, it's gonna, it's literally in the blink of an eye.

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They're going to be grown and they're going to be going different directions.

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That's where I am.

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They're transitioning into young adulthood and you know, the family used to be

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the center of their universe, right.

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When they get to that age, it's no longer the center of their universe.

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And you're like, my babies, they're just, they wanna spend time with other people.

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Oh my gosh.

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I, my seven year old says she wants to live with mommy forever.

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And, and she's, and she's on, she's like, I'm I, I wanna get married.

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But then we'll just all live together.

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We'll all live together.

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And I'm like, I'm pretty sure that will change.

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I should record you saying this now.

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So that I can play it back for you when you're wanting to study abroad and

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when you're wanting to, you know, move across the world or something like that.

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Just I wanna be able to remind you that at one point you wanted to live with

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mommy forever and just feel, feel good about that because it means that she

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loves me and trusts me, but yeah, I, I know there's coming a day when they will

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spread their wings and that, and that will be, that will mean I've done a good job.

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That will mean that, that Jason and I, my husband and I have succeeded.

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It's like, you know when they can fly on their own, that is success.

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But I do know it's, it's bittersweet.

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But you are at the perfect season for what we're about to

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jump into the topic of Bitcoin.

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They're young enough that you can just start prepping them and teaching

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them without them having their own opinions about how crazy we are.

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So what a great season to be in.

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Let's talk Bitcoin.

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Let's talk how, how you came across the concept of Bitcoin in the first

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place, and how did you get from that point to being so convicted that you

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take part in the, in the ecosystem.

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Sure.

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Well, Tali, I probably, similar to a lot of people, I feel like the more people

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I meet in Bitcoin, I hear a somewhat frequent story of the Covid pandemic

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came and I had a lot of time on my hands, because that's what happened to my family.

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My, my husband is a musician, as I, I mentioned, and as you

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can imagine, the, the shutdowns.

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Did not do very well for musicians and public performance, the arts in general.

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So we were in a very kind of scary situation where in the blink of an

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eye, our income, our projected income for the year went to zero because.

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Every gig fell off his calendar.

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And I do work part-time, but not nearly enough to support a family.

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And you know, this was before the government started stepping in to

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do all these programs and stuff.

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There was just a lot of like fear, like, you know, but also time.

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And he started.

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Looking into cryptocurrencies in general, but Bitcoin specifically as

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the, as this new technology in finance.

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And he started doing deep dives, like instead of spending time practicing his

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craft, he started researching Bitcoin.

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And I remember driving one day and he was getting so excited about

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Bitcoin and he was using terminology like, this can solve world problems.

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This can fix financial inequality.

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Like things like way bigger than just, Oh, this is a new weird way to pay, you

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know, pay my babysitter or pay, uh, for my cup of coffee or something like that.

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And his background before he started his career is in political science.

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Specifically of the developing world.

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And when we were in college, he wanted to, he wanted to bring

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justice to the world and equality.

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And unfortunately back in the early two thousands, he got really, I.

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Discouraged and depressed about the situation in the global

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south and how unfair the world financial system is for people.

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And so he kind of just like left that all behind as like, this

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is an unfixable problem and the world is irrevocably broken.

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And he threw himself into this other career.

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Now, fast forward 20 years and I'm hearing him talk about

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this is the tool that we need.

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This is the tool, the financial tool that can bring financial equality that

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can level the playing field for people who have been historically oppressed,

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people who have been historically under the thumb of these banking systems.

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Anyway, he, so that gave him this like passion and this fire and which is very

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attractive in a husband, you know, this like excitement and I was like, wow.

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Like, that's really cool.

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And so during the pandemic, you know, as, as I'm sure everybody did, our

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streaming services became our lifelines for like, you know, entertainment,

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but also like education in our case, because we started watching every

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YouTube video we could find on Bitcoin and how it changes fundamentally,

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the structure of availability to capital that's not centralized.

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So it's not based in like a government and it's not based in somebody else's control.

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And so as he's thinking through like the inflation problems that happen

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throughout the global south and all these, and then the inflation problems

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that happened here after the pandemic, he was like, "Bitcoin fixes this!"

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He kept saying that.

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"Bitcoin fixes this!"

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Thanks for joining us today and learning with us today.

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