From Jazz Grooves to Digital Gold: A Music Family's Bitcoin Journey - part 3

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Hi everyone.

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Welcome to Orange Hatter.

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Today you're listening to part three of my conversation with Sarah.

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they're the ones who were ahead of the curve when they went

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to college and other people were still learning how to word process.

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Other people were still learning how to save and send documents.

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My husband was lucky.

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He was one of the kids that first kids to have a computer, so he is,

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he was more comfortable with that.

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So, yeah, so I'm excited about it too for, for my kids and like bringing,

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even just the terminology in there have been new, new, awesome tools to educate

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younger generations about Bitcoin.

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We're excited to play the game that you and your husband have created with them.

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We're board game family and it's really cool to have tools like that.

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Tools like the Tuttle Twins cartoon to introduce to kids the

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function and the background and the building blocks of Bitcoin.

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So thank you guys for having that passion too and acting on it.

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That's very, that's.

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That's gonna be a really important tool for our younger generations.

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Yeah, I totally agree with you.

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There are so many resources out there.

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Our, my husband's passion is board games, which is why he used that

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as a communication tool for me.

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But you know, like you said there, there are apps coming online all the time.

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I've spoken to so many women who are passionate about sharing Bitcoin through

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user-friendly platforms, you know, apps and YouTube videos and things like that.

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So, but I definitely relate to you about the level of engagement you want be having

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in the Bitcoin space, technology wise.

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So an example I have is I use Apple products because

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they're user friendly, right?

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That's why.

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That's why Apple's designed their computers that way for

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non-technical people like me.

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But when I talked to my son about the computer, he is a computer techie, and so

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he was like, well, I will never use Apple.

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I have no flexibility and I can't do anything I want.

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I'm like, well, that's great because you know what else you

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wanna do and you can do it.

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I can't.

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And I'm perfectly happy just opening up my iPhone and opening up my Apple Map

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book and just start using it without knowing any kind of coding or any kind of

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technical background stuff that's running.

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I don't even know what to call it, but yeah, and bitcoin's like that.

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You.

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You don't have to know the technical ins and outs to use it.

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So you are currently using Bitcoin as a savings vehicle.

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Are you able to transact with it on a day-to-day?

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That's a question that I get a lot.

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My husband sends me SATs periodically just to be funny.

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He'll, he'll tip me in SATs.

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Like, he is funny.

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We, um, we have fun testing out new mobile wallets, like similar to Venmo

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or, you know, in your, in our phone.

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You know, they, we have fun testing out these new tech new apps and

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wallets that, and he'll send me SATs.

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SATs are, you know, the, the to SATs, to a Bitcoin and I have bought things

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with Bitcoin at Bitcoin specific events.

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Like we, we had a little date to go to a conference and that's

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actually, that's where we met.

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And so there I was able to purchase actual, you know,

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things with Bitcoin, I believe.

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But also I, one thing that I like to do, Is there are lots of fun coin earning

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things right now because people are excited about using this current currency.

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And so I play video games like, not like video games.

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I'm not like a, a console gamer, but I play video games.

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Sudoku, what?

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I'm just looking at my phone to see which games I have on here right now.

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Sudoku, and then there's a Wordle.

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I mean, I, I was playing these before, but then my husband showed

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me a couple of apps that you earn Bitcoin, you earn little Satoshi's,

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fractions of a penny by playing, which playing games I was already playing.

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Like, I'll admit, like sometimes I sneak away from my kids for 10

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minutes and I do a Sudoku, you know?

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And I will get, and then Wordle, you play these games and there's like a company,

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they're based in New York where they're making games that actually paying Bitcoin.

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So obviously there's ads.

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Like there are ads.

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That's how they get paid.

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But they pass on the savings in these micropayments of pennies to the people

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like me who are, I'm already gonna do a word, a crossword today, or I'm

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already gonna do a Sudoku or whatever.

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So I have fun, you know, they call the phrase stacking my SATs

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or whatever by playing these fun little games on my iPhone.

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So I just earn, earn SATs with games.

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And then I transfer them to my little, my wallet on my phone

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and then, you know, do that.

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And also there's another fun way that I've been like earning SATs is, um...

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there goes my active child...

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um, uh, I, Jason's really excited about, they're like exercise, not exercise,

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but they're step counting apps.

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Where we use sMiles, where for every step you get, you earn SATs.

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So like yesterday I had 8,500 steps.

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It was a, it was a semi-active day, and at the end of the day I logged

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my, my Steps in my sMiles app and it sent me fifteens, which is like, what

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is that, like 3 cents or something?

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But, but it's fun.

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It's rewarding and 3 cents is more than no cents.

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And so I, I find myself motivated to, I mean, they say that, you know, if

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you have a reward, then you're more, at, more likely to do something.

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So I, I do actually think through my, my steps because I'm like, oh, I

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wanna stack my, I wanna get more SATs.

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I don't wanna just get 10 SATs, I wanna get 12 or whatever.

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So I get little micro, micro Bitcoin every day by doing things

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I'm already doing, which is fun.

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And then, oh, and we did an experiment.

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We're so, we're, we're new in this.

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We're not around a lot of people that use it, use Bitcoin yet.

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We're hoping to change that.

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We're hoping to introduce people, like we talk our, our family is

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more and more intrigued by Bitcoin.

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But like we accepted Bitcoin when we held a garage sale and we had

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one person who paid in Bitcoin.

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And it was really easy, it was similar...

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just like a Venmo using these mobile wallets.

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Jason gave, like, he was like, "I will give a huge discount to

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anybody who pays in Bitcoin."

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I mean, you know, garage sale prices already.

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But yeah, so we we're just trying to be creative with different

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opportunities to use it and having fun with it, like I said.

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Yeah, we keep joking about paying our kids' allowance in Bitcoin.

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We haven't, we haven't done that yet because I'm not, frankly, 'cause they're

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not really good at doing their chores yet.

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We're still working on the first step of earning their allowance,

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and then we'll get into how we're gonna pay your allowance.

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But yeah, they, uh, excited about the idea of Bitcoin.

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I've got my five-year-old will, my five-year-old will go around

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and say, Bitcoin's hard money.

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And I'm like, If I didn't know that you knew what that meant, I'd feel like

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weird, but, but she knows what it means.

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She's like, you can't copy it and it's hard to make and yeah, so she is excited

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to get paid in Bitcoin eventually.

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But yeah, we'll see.

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I'd love to, yeah, I'd love to see more merchants accepting

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it because I feel like it is.

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It's the, it really is gonna be the future.

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I, my husband and I we're convinced this is gonna be the future and

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I'm excited to be a part of it.

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Even if, you know, right now it's mostly a savings, like you said, mostly

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a savings tool, a store of value.

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But you know, maybe in the future my like 12 SATs I earn for walking will be worth

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more as the value goes up, you know?

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And I'll be really glad that I downloaded that app and, you know, I hated

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Bitcoin for the steps I took each day.

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I'm gonna need to get a list of the apps that you're using

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'cause they sound like so much fun.

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Yeah.

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I mean, and it's, and, and the thing is, it's, it's stuff I was already doing.

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Like, I literally deleted one Sudoku app and then so I could, and then I downloaded

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the one that's associated with earning SATs, like, and Jason has a lot more, he's

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got a whole like, block on his phone of like, you know, games that earn Bitcoin.

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But yeah, I, um, Have a lot of fun with it.

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Yeah.

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Um, I'm going to actually transition inside 'cause my computer's

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dying quicker than I expected.

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We're getting like a tour of my, my house.

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I love that piano behind you.

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Oh yeah.

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That's a pump organ.

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Um, so Jason's or reed organ, um...

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Beautiful.

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So it's got the, the stop the pumps and the, the, the, um, the pull...

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so like it changes the, the sound.

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Um, Jason's, Jason's grandpa collected antiques and things like that.

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So we have like eight phonograph, different varieties of phonographs.

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And then my mom had that in her house and so we inherited it.

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But it's, it's actually funny, my, um, when people, people

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come and visit our house...

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and my husband lives in contradictions, so he we're super

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excited about financial technology.

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We're super excited about these new, um, I don't know, like almost

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like star-trekky, like, tools.

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But at the same time living in, in supposed harmony.

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Our house is full of analog phonographs and music boxes if you go before

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phonographs, and you know, pump organs, and our, our children listen to LPs, like,

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that's, we taught them how to use they...

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I think we have a record player in, a record or a phonograph player, in

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every room of the house, basically.

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So it's like, we're kind of like a weird meld of old technology that

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some people would say is just, you know, too bulky, too, you know,

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whatever, and new technology.

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And I don't know, I feel like my, Jason does a good job of like valuing things

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for, the value that they, they present.

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So like we listen to records and there's a certain, there's certain music that

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just sounds better on a record, you know?

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And, and that's fine.

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That's great.

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We're not like an, you know what I mean?

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I guess what I'm trying to say is like we're not forcing,

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moving forward into technology.

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We're not like people that are like the next best thing we need to have.

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